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As many of you may have noticed that along with the announcement of winners of MBAM , I have introduced a rule of compulsory feedback from winning members or else they will be disqualified from future Giveaways.
This thread will be kept updated with those blacklisted winners who doesn't provide feedback (Blacklist will be created with email addresses) .:mad:
Update : - Few emails have made into this list. It will be here soon. :)
List Updated. :)
Avinash,
I provided my feedback at MBAM pro winners post comment section as well as in feedback thread of MBAM Pro in the Forum.If there any problems or info. about MBAM Pro I will reply ASAP.Thank you for your support and everything:)
So, this new rule applies with the winners of MBAM Pro and will be effective for all future giveaways. Previous giveaway winners are not included in it I think...
Yes, you are right. It applies from now on. Previous giveaways not included.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samuel
Update :- Email addresses will be added to the list after expiry of 10 days from the announcement of giveaway winners in case they fail to give a feedback.
Email addresses will be removed from the blacklist after they provide the feedback.
Avinash Bhai,
It is good that u have made reviews strict for the giveaways, it going to be solving 2 things (atleast what i think)
1. key/license collectors could be reduced
2 more software developers would come-up with giveaways, as i feel these reviews won't be biased, example my review on MBAM here.
Now having said that, currently the software section does contains posts for reviews, but not clearly visible. Hence i request if u could make a sub-section by the name "Giveaways Review" to have members directly go over there. 1 more thing, pls post a direct link to such reviews in the email u sent to winners..yes i feel lazy to browse 2 forum....& then to software...review post...
Just my thoughts..rest upto u..
Chalo Bye;)
Grr
i'm with you on this rule...Totally agree..
i'm also with you regarding this new feedback requirement.
Just updated the blacklist. Check it out.
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Originally Posted by Avinash
Thanks Avi..
I hope the list remains small otherwise my work is going to increase. :)
May I know why did I include in the blacklist and I didn't win in the giveaway. And I don't receive the license. So why do I give feedback if I didn't know I win?
Its amazing to see how good people have memory. Your name is in the blacklist as you won a giveaway here at avinashtech and didnt provide a feedback later on.Quote:
Originally Posted by vhick
here is the post
Winners: NovaPDF Pro giveaway
Attachment 8
You also made a comment with a thank you message. here is that comment link
Winners: NovaPDF Pro giveaway
And as you didnt provided a feedback, hence your name in the list. :mad2:
Sorry for the memory gap sir as I admit, I have this..
I will post feedback now because I use NovaPDF a lot.
Thank you sir for clearing me up. Sorry again..
I have posted feedback at forum today, i won an license key for malwarebytes profesional . kindly remove my name from blacklist please. thanks
no problems mate. list will be updated :at::llama:Quote:
Originally Posted by dragon
Why have a giveaway if you are going to have a blacklist. Seems sort of suspicious:noidea: to me.
What exactly is "suspicious"?Quote:
Originally Posted by davhag64
These black-lists are for previous giveaways. For people who haven't bothered to give a feedback after winning a license.
Anyway, Avinash has clearly mentioned that the blacklist rule is not in place for this month's celebrations.
If you are a active member, you would have known the answer. We need winners to give feedback and if they dont give feedback, they are blacklisted.Quote:
Originally Posted by davhag64
Also, if you are suspicious, you should not take part in giveaway or forum. Stay here if you trust us. If you don't trust as, there are better places over the web and you can go there.:spy:
Seems that u didn't get the idea of giving the feedback.Quote:
Originally Posted by davhag64
In simple terms- no Feedback = No interest from product company's for giveaways.
Please note that the giveaways are sponsored, not purchased. :pray2:
this is a great rule.. and something that a lot of others should do as well.. would definitely help out on those just "hording" license keys.. no objections to this from me :)
Zug
I was not aware of this rule, and I will keep it in mind. I have never been hoarding licenses, though.
Wow looks like everyone jumped on the bandwagon and slaughtered the guy for asking a question and saying what was on his mind. Maybe some of us did not know all the rules, but to be sarcastic in your views toward it proved my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grr
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Thank you for a clear and straight forward answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by ashwin
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So let me get this straight, your answer is to be rude to a question being asked. That does not say a lot about your forum or your Software and Company. I'm sure other people would be amazed of your attitude toward a simple question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avinash
@davhag64,
I am the coolest guy you ever met, until you shoot me a question about trust. The forum runs on trust here. So if someone feels we cant be trusted that's a bad way to shoot us particularly me.
Only thing that this forum works on is trust between members. Just browse a bit through forum if you can and you will know what I am talking about.
As I keep saying, trust is the virtue on which this forum runs. Still you are wise enough to decide if we can be trusted or not. Hope it clears the issue.
Also, hope you still stay here in-spite of this small inconvenience. :)
I've heard something "suspicious" here :spy:
Hi davhag64, Welcome to the forum. This forum is created to share. Share our thoughts. Share our knowledge and Feedback is also a way to share one's experience with others. But the final decision to share or not, is left to the members. Feedback rule is laid by Avinash for a good cause. If a person knows the real motive behind that rule, then no one will hesitate to give feedback. If you we can know more about what made you suspicious then we can help you by clarifying your doubts, rather than starting a discussion without knowing the root cause.
Waiting for your reply,
Sam :spy:
Newbie so I had not read all the rules and had not read some of the members quotes and messages until today. So I understand to a point, and I understand if I am blacklisted or blocked. Its all good, like you said the internet is a big place.:couch2:
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Hey Sam,
I have no idea really what I have started here, I just hate the word "Blacklisted". If I or anyone do something wrong, contact me personally and let me know. Block me as a poster or cancel my membership. Ask me to leave the forum, anything but the blacklist was by e-mail addresses which was concerning to me. Call me a spy, paranoid, overly cautious or whatever, but that is me. Just my opinion which is all it is, you know what they say its like ---------- everyone has one.:decision:
OK guys, all is well now. :grouphug: its a closed chapter.
Also, Point well taken about the word "Blacklist". If someone can suggesst me a better word, I would be happy to replace it.
Another clarification, This forum does not ban members and thats a policy until something exceptional happens in future.
@davhag64
A little re-cap of what this blacklist is:
In simple words, Blacklisted = disqualification from Avinashtech's giveaways
People who did not give feedback after winning were not counted for newer giveaways.
And it is a personal record kept by Avi, It will not be made public.
So there is no need to be worried about Privacy or anything else.
So what exactly counts as "feedback" ?
A simple "thanks for the license", "I really like this product", "It works fine, thanks" would have been more than enough.
People didn't bother to say "Thanks".
For Example: If I offered you a glass of lemonade, and you drank it and just walked away without a word, how would I feel ? Hurt? Disappointed ?
Would I offer you another glass the next time I see you? (maybe tea :tea: LOL)
Many people don't understand that feedback is the "key" for a successful giveaway.
Developers use giveaways to find out how popular their product is, whether it has any flaws,etc. Just like a survey
All licenses are sponsored by developers. Bloggers act as mediators between the developer and the participants.
They hand over the license to the winners. What do the bloggers get in return? (just page views and email subscribers)
And thats why this blacklist rule came to exist. To help the developer get their feedback from winners.
Not to cause any discomfort to any reader/member.
PS: I may be a moderator, but that rule applied to me too. If had failed to give a feedback, then I would be disqualified too.
Anyway its not in place for this month's celebrations. So just relax and try your luck
Come on Davhag... By the way are you a philosophy student? You sound like Aristotle my friend :lol: ... Just kidding.Quote:
Originally Posted by davhag64
We are here to help you. We don't believe in banning or blacklisting (Even Avinash too). We like you just as you are. We don't put restrictions on how you should be on this forum. Just be as you are. Cheer up and I hope to see you more often here sharing your experiences.
- Sharing is Caring
:wave: Thanks all for your time in explaining your view more better to me. I do understand why you need the feedback. Sometimes I have won a software from a site and not know whick one I have won it from unless the e-mail say so specifically. As in Oster Backup Pro, I entered in several different sites and all I got was a serial # and congratulations. The e-mail came from Oster so I have no idea who I was suppose to thank. I live in America and at this time there is so much distrust and so much is being changed, our freedoms are being taken away, they want to monitor our internet usage, our electricity usage, and now wanting to tell us what we can eat and drink even to the point that they have the food police who will decide if a farmer can sell his food, if the grocery store or factory can be shut down. It is just crazy how we have let our leaders do this to us over the last few years. A person starts to take everything a little personal and have to watch out for themselves in all that they do. Yeah there is spies out there and right now it is our government.:spy:
The idea is good but sometimes winners may not willing or have no time to give their feedbacks. I think it is better to emphasize again on this RULE to have them reminded prior immediate cancellation of their winning chances.
One thing I like to point out, as to each giveaway event, 2 licenses are reserved for Forum Members. Are these licenses to be given away in later Forum Giveaway during Christmas or ......?
At the same time, I reckon Forum Member participate in the giveaway in Avinashtech Blog will have no comments shown on the Comments Remarks after giving their comments. Are they being separated or grouped under Forum Member Giveaway at a later stage?
I reckon "Suspension" or "Suspended from Giveaway" is better than "Black-listed". What do you think?
@davhag64 - Reviews help developers to create more better software. They give out free licenses so that winners woudl try and post their experience, good or bad, whatever...If u get a chance read my reviews for the giveaways at the blog..u would get an idea..
@hakah- forum members get more priority than non-members...and they r counted in the giveaways at the same time...nothing for later...
Whenever the rule is in place, everyone is well reminded off. Right now, the rule is not effective for ABC giveaways.Quote:
Originally Posted by hakah
Regarding the licenses reserved for forum members, these are for few very active forum members like ashwin, Mike and Grr who are contributing to the forum since we started.
Every other forum member is given more weightage than non forum members while putting the names in the draw. After that its random.
Perhaps we can replace "blacklist" to something like "suspended for future giveaways".
:dance:
"uncertain for future giveaway until further notice" :pray2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Avinash
Grr:
I think that's all depend on the decision of Forum Moderators or subject to future RULE to be imposed !Quote:
uncertain for future giveaway until further notice